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 Post subject: Alloy wheel information. PCD. Captive Rotors. Fitment.
PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 3:50 pm 
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(Info from old forums)

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go here
http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html

it tells u wat tyres u should get when ur getting new alloys 2 maintain rolling radius and void probs with ur speedo.

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Also this is handy for calculating wheel offsets

http://toy4two.home.mindspring.com/offset.html

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Do I have captive rotors?

Captive rotors were only on the gen1 Coupe and not all of them had them.


Captive Rotors -
These are the 4 bolt-heads between the wheel studs.

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Drilled Recesses -
The PCD of the rotor bolts is 4x100. As you can see here 4 dents have been drilled into the back of the wheels. Without these recesses the wheel will not fit flush to the hub!

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These people do alloy wheels


South West Wheels

Wheel Base

Race and Road

Rochford Tyres you can search for 4x114 (or any fitment) and it will display all wheels available.

You can search by car model at Rim Stock/Compomotive

Smiths Wheels have an excellent fitment guide which tells you which of their wheels will fit

Tyre Save also have a fitment guide



A few wheels which definitely fit a gen1 & 2 (4x114.3)

The offset for the gen1 & 2 is +42mm altho variations will fit.

TSW Razor
TSW Apex
TSW Thunder
TSW Pace
TSW Rib
Oz Super Turismo
Oz Super Leggera
Matrix Torque
Wolfrace Ikon Plus Shadow Chrome
Wolfrace Octane Shadow Chrome
Wolfrace Hybrid


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I've put aset of Team Dynamics on mine thier the Monza Hi Silver 17's and they fit like a glove total cost including delivery was £540.


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 Post subject: Gen 3 Fitments
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The gen 3 will accept 16", 17" & 18" wheels.

Fitment is 5 x 114.3. Offset (ET) 46 - 35. Most reasonable wheel widths will fit.

Tyres for 17's - 215/45 x 17 (normally)
Tyres for 18's - 225/40 x 18 (normally)

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 10, 2006 5:18 pm 
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Location: Hull, East Yorkshire
18" x 7.5" Offset 45mm
215/40-18 (Suggested Tire size)
DISTANCE FROM HUB TO WHEEL RIM LIP: 1.95"

18" x 7.5" Offset 42mm (Most common size for the coupe)
215/40-18 (Suggested Tire size)
DISTANCE FROM HUB TO WHEEL RIM LIP: 2.05"

18" x 7.5" Offset 40mm
215/40-18 (Suggested Tire size)
DISTANCE FROM HUB TO WHEEL RIM LIP: 2.15"

18" x 7.5" Offset 30mm
215/40-18 (Suggested Tire size)
DISTANCE FROM HUB TO WHEEL RIM LIP: 2.35" MINOR RUB

18" x 8" Offset 45mm
215/40-18 (Suggested Tire size)
DISTANCE FROM HUB TO WHEEL RIM LIP: 2.2"

18" x 8" Offset 40mm
215/40-18 (Suggested Tire size)
DISTANCE FROM HUB TO WHEEL RIM LIP: 2.4" MINOR RUB

18" x 8.5" Offset 35mm
225/40-18 (Suggested Tire size)
DISTANCE FROM HUB TO WHEEL RIM LIP: 2.85" DEFINITE RUB

18" x 8.5" Offset 30mm
225/40-18 (Suggested Tire size)
DISTANCE FROM HUB TO WHEEL RIM LIP: 3.05" DEFINITE RUB

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:12 pm 
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Can I just add please...........

I've been looking around over these past weeks for a much needed new set of alloys for my Coupe.
I shan't give a day by day account of what the search went like, but I'm rather suprised after looking at some companies web-sites at their lack of responce to my questions, and one company ignoring my e-mail after deciding which wheels I wanted and I wished to order from them :roll:

Also I have found that there is conflicting advice out there.....it's safe to take the captive rotors off, and another saying it's not safe and so on. Be prepared for disappointment too. You may well have found the 'perfect' designed wheel for your Coupe, only to be told that they don't come in the size or fitment that you want.

In the end, I bought my wheels from http://www.tunershop.co.uk/ after finding them on the web.
I cannot recommend them highly enough. The guy on the other end of the telephone was very patient, knowledgable and helpful. He actually replied to my e-mails too! orlando.lott@tunershop.co.... or telephone him on...02081 232398

The style I chose fits straight on, no problem with the captive rotor bolts. Excellent quality, and good service.
As you can guess....I'm rather pleased :D :D


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just looked at that site driftwood, seemed good but i'm a bit confused over all the pricing

rim 7,5x17 ET 50-25 £ 148.00
add item to shopping cart

7,5x17 - 215-35-17 £ 294.00
add item to shopping cart

7,5x17 - 205-40-17 £ 241.00
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7,5x17 - 215-40-17 £ 241.00
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7,5x17 - 215-45-17 £ 241.00



what do each of those indicate? mainly the 7,5x17 bit i mean, that mean with tyres as opposed to the cheapest one which may just be rims?


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yep...the prices are shown as
rim only.....in my case...Borbet 'T'


rim 7,5x16 ET 40/35/20 £ 110.00 ..............price for rim only 7 1/2" x 16" rim available in 3 offset sizes

rim 9x16 ET 35/30/25/15 £ 129.00 same as above rim only in three offset sizes

7,5x16 - 195-40-16 £ 202.00 .....rim plus a 195/40x16 tyre
9x16 - 215-35-16 £ 244.00 .......same....rim and tyre

7,5x16 - 215-40-16 £ 163.00 and the same...
9x16 - 215-40-16 £ 184.00 ....and ditto...price includes the tyre

The package I got was just 4 rims....7 1/2" x 16's..no tyres. The cost was £440 for the rims and wheel nuts. That included VAT and Postage. I bought a set of matching locking wheel nuts at the same time which was about £14 extra. Ordered on a thursday afternnon and received straight from Germany Friday morning of the following week.

Hope that helps.....may I suggest that you check out with Orlando at Tunershop that the wheels you decide on will definately fit...as I've said, he is helpful ;)


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Location: orkney, scotland miles away from everybody else!!!
good sites them.

also add lenso s7. fitted no probs after drilling back of wheel. lenso.co.uk very helpful bunch!!


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Just in case its of any interest to anyone, I have fitted a set of 19x8.5 rims to my gen 3.5. I have 225/35-19 Avons on them. I had to have the arches rolled to get them in but it was no real problem and they look fantastic! I also have the Eibach lowring kit fitted and they still fit fine. Have not seen another Coupe on 19's. Are there any others around?
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the mrs has a gen1 with those captive rotors..problem being she needs a spare wheel ..what other car makes would fit i.e honda..mazda etc.coz trying to find a coupe in our local scrapyards is impossible


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the mrs has a gen1 with those captive rotors..problem being she needs a spare wheel ..what other car makes would fit i.e honda..mazda etc.coz trying to find a coupe in our local scrapyards is impossible


Dont forget that your spare has to be the same size alloy as your normal alloys. ie u cant have 17's all round and a 15" spare.


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being a mot examiner i know this just would like to know what wheels would fit..dont want to order a wheel from main dealer as i am a tight git :lol


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Fruitbat wrote:

Dont forget that your spare has to be the same size alloy as your normal alloys. ie u cant have 17's all round and a 15" spare.


Why ???

Is it against the law to have the spare a different size ??

What about those space saver wheels ?

I thought the hight of the tyre from side to side had to be the same on the 15s as the 17s

Otherwise your speedo will be out

Is this not right


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anybody help me :bang :D


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Yeah, apparently it is illegal to have different diameter alloys, as i found out last friday when i had a puncture. But its ok on space cavers :confused stupid i know, but there we are.

The overall diameter of the front tyres should be the same as standard, otherwise your speedo will be out.

I've got 215/40 17's on the front of mine, so the overall diameter is 3% bigger, but it just emans that i have to be aware of that when drivin (so if my speedo says 30 i'm actually doin 31 or if it shows 100mph i'm actually doing 103mph). So it doesnt really matter, as long as you are aware of the difference and drive accordingly.


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Yeah, apparently it is illegal to have different diameter alloys, as i found out last friday when i had a puncture. But its ok on space cavers :confused stupid i know, but there we are.

The overall diameter of the front tyres should be the same as standard, otherwise your speedo will be out.

I've got 215/40 17's on the front of mine, so the overall diameter is 3% bigger, but it just emans that i have to be aware of that when drivin (so if my speedo says 30 i'm actually doin 31 or if it shows 100mph i'm actually doing 103mph). So it doesnt really matter, as long as you are aware of the difference and drive accordingly.


Thats mad, So is it legal to have no spare at all but illegal to have an alloy wheel of a different size

even thought its realy the same size overall inc tyre

I have 205/40 17s on mine and its only 1.7 bigger so its doing 61 when the speedo reads 60 so not too bad


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yeah it's legal not to have a spare , but if you are carrying a bald spare to get you by you can get done , with the intention of using it ;)


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Also, it's almost impossible to get a bi-directional tyre for your alloys. If you have a single directional tyre and fit it so its going the wrong way, it will give you very little grip.

So the tyre place told me.


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So whats the point of having a spare then :confused :shock:


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At the moment i've got 17's all round, but a 15" spare... which i 'may' have used last week when i had a puncture to travel 1/4 mile to a garage :b

Fitting single directional tyres the wrong way will reduce grip in the wet.

Bi-directionals are easy to get hold of as its only performance tyres that are single direction. So basically cheepy tyres are normally bi-directional and thats all you want for a spare anyway.

I got this off the AA website:
Spare tyres
There is no legal obligation to carry a spare tyre and it does not have to comply with the legal requirements while it is stowed away. However, when fitted to the vehicle (for example, following a puncture) it must then comply with the law. A spare tyre is not a testable item in the MOT test, though the examiner may draw your attention to an unserviceable item as a matter of courtesy.

Options are:
Spare 17" with cheepy tyre (extra weight to carry around)
Tyre weld (a lot lighter but ruins the tyre, which is annoying if it has plenty of tread left)
Space saver (expensive as you cant go very far on them (25-30 miles), so are generally only used once)

I'm not 100% sure on whether the alloy has to be the same size as those fitted, its just what i've been told by a garage. I do intend to find out though as i need to sort something out for my car.


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yeah it's legal not to have a spare , but if you are carrying a bald spare to get you by you can get done , with the intention of using it ;)

no offence that is b*llsh*t the intention of using it bit...only the tyres in contact with road are subject to regulations :roll: anyhoo i take it nobody knows what other vehicle manufacture wheel would fit the mrs genaration1 coupe :aargh :bang


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Found this webpage for ya:

http://www.uk-hotrods.co.uk/Technical/S ... 0chart.htm

Anything with 4 x 114.3 PCD will fit.


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:cool: thank you very much..now need to look for a rover 600 or 800..plenty of them in srappies :D


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after scouring many sites i have compiled a list of cars that have the same PCD as the gen2, obviously I cannot vouch that the info is 100% accurate but it broadens the search for good alloys a fair bit..
as stated above some gen1's have captive rotors so althought the PCD is the same (4x114) the aloys may not fit.

Honda
Accord 90>93
Prelude 90>97
Civic 97>01
Aerodeck 97>01

Hyundai
Accent 94>00
Elantra 01>
Lantra 01>
Matrix 01>
Sonata 93>

Kia
Carens 00>
Clarus 96>
Magentus 01>

Mitsubishi
Evo l, ll & lll 99>97
Galant 96>
Space star 98>
Space wagon 90>98

Nissan
200 88>94
Almera 00>
Primera 91>98

Rover
600 93>99
800 86>96

Subaru
Justy 96>

Suzuki
Swift 00>

Volvo
S40 96>00
V40 96>00

Most new protons & deawoo's are the same size but I will leave it at that for new untill i can confirm more..


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