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Author:  thedupleman [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 11:41 am ]
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several papers have reported over the last few days fuel could rise to £2 a litre by 2015 and even higher by 2020.is anybody ever gonna do anything to stop this blatant rip off in the name of the enviroment,but actually to line others pockets??
*just noticed some mps want it as high as £3 a litre*

Author:  Joff [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:07 pm ]
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thedupleman wrote:
*just noticed some mps want it as high as £3 a litre*


That's only because we pay their fuel for them

Author:  thedupleman [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:35 pm ]
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true enough joff :lol

Author:  hutchy2570 [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:45 pm ]
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They want it that high because they won't get as much fuel duty in 2020. By that point there will be a significant amount of "city" cars running on batteries, and this will mean less fuel being bought at the pump. This results in less fuel duty (total, not %) so to offset they want higher prices to keep the fuel duty higher.

Author:  Angelus [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:50 pm ]
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I predict riots.

Author:  Joff [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:51 pm ]
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But quite happily allowing the mining of the Nickel and Cadmium for the batteries to completely overwhelm any amount of environmental damage done by cars...

Author:  SIII JAMIE [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:13 pm ]
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£2 a litre WTF thats really crap. Its currently £103.9 near me and I think thats way to much. Need to either get a big pay rise or steal a fuel tanker :rollin :rollin :rollin :b

Author:  Macker [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:42 pm ]
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This wont effect me in the slightess ... 2020 i'll be in a nursing home get my nappy changed :roll:

Author:  thedupleman [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:56 pm ]
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nursing home costs will have to go up to pay for the fuel they use getting you in there:rollin

Author:  Macker [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:00 pm ]
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thedupleman wrote:
nursing home costs will have to go up to pay for the fuel they use getting you in there:rollin


I'll get the bus ... well it was only 45p a gal ( not a litre ) when i first started driving ... so i haven't had it all bad like the new drivers on here .

Author:  thedupleman [ Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:01 pm ]
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and now they are on about you wont get a free bus pass cos they cant afford them-they are gonna get you one way or another

Author:  Joff [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 1:30 am ]
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Its much the same as most things with the gvt. Take student loans:

First they said they wanted 50% of people to go to uni

Then they slyly swapped the interest from the CPI to the RPI, which changed it from around 2% to nearly 5%, but promised it would always follow the RPI no matter what. They also cut grants right down

Then this year the RPI fell to -0.4%. The gvt decided they didn't like this so stuck student loans at 0%, which doesn't follow at all...

And I expect in the future it will be whatever they please


Anyway to make a bit (lot) of money for themselves...

Author:  coupe-moe [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:59 am ]
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all it needs is enough people to take their numbr plates off and break the law how ever they want. stealing fuel, speeding, jumping lights etc etc and last but not least parking the the middle of the roads blocking as much of the major cities and motorways as is possible :fingers

Author:  thedupleman [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:02 am ]
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yeah the trouble is then the government calls out the army to restore order and then the country becomes whats known as a "dictatorship".then you will be in the soft and smelly

Author:  Joff [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:53 am ]
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That's not a problem. What's left of our army is elsewhere right now

Author:  coupe-moe [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 3:35 pm ]
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you really think Gordon Brown or any of his monkeys have the mental capacity to work out a reason why the arm should defend the land against the population??? they will jsut laugh in gordons face and join us.



I reckon anyways lol

Author:  androo007 [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:18 pm ]
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well doesnt it NOT suprise you that the cost of oil per barrel is HALF what it was this time last year..... and yet so oddly teh prices are higher than ever.

Author:  thedupleman [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:27 pm ]
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i reckon labour would like nothing more than an emergency over here so they could "save the population"

Author:  StevieD [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 5:44 pm ]
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Im getting ready for the Mad Max era :lol

At least i have shotguns :rollin

Author:  thedupleman [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 7:58 pm ]
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i didnt understand what you meant so i bidded for mel gibsons leather pants on ebay thought that would help in the mad max era :rollin :rollin

Author:  StevieD [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 8:16 pm ]
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thedupleman wrote:
i didnt understand what you meant so i bidded for mel gibsons leather pants on ebay thought that would help in the mad max era :rollin :rollin


:lol can you bid on the little gremlin with the boomerang too?

Author:  100scout [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:22 pm ]
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I'm building a large underground tank to hold fuel ;)

Author:  thedupleman [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:33 pm ]
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100scout wrote:
I'm building a large underground tank to hold fuel ;)


yeah i took your advice but nicola has just told me this sherman iv bought is not what scout meant

Author:  100scout [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:28 pm ]
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thedupleman wrote:
100scout wrote:
I'm building a large underground tank to hold fuel ;)


yeah i took your advice but nicola has just told me this sherman iv bought is not what scout meant


you've been on that US e-bay again haven't you ;) :rollin

Author:  thedupleman [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:04 pm ]
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no.
..........you want any packets of jerky.......iv got 800 of them


Image

Author:  100scout [ Wed Oct 28, 2009 11:18 pm ]
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is that for the nuclear bunker you got last week

Author:  thedupleman [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 9:28 am ]
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shush........im collecting perfect specimens of coupe to put in there with me(and certain owners)too.i dont want them all knowing.goes without saying you get an invite uncle bob...........

Author:  hutchy2570 [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:02 am ]
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thedupleman wrote:
shush........im collecting perfect specimens of coupe to put in there with me(and certain owners)too.i dont want them all knowing.goes without saying you get an invite uncle bob...........


You mean you'll preserve a frog eyed wart? :lol ;)

Author:  Ninos [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 11:27 am ]
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thedupleman wrote:
shush........im collecting perfect specimens of coupe to put in there with me(and certain owners)too.i dont want them all knowing.goes without saying you get an invite uncle bob...........


No he means he'll need at least 1 Scotcman down there :roll:

Back on topic then, Yeah I think it’s an absolute farce but by the time that happens, there will be alternative fuels to power our cars and I'm not talking about 20 tonne batteries.

Author:  thedupleman [ Thu Oct 29, 2009 10:27 pm ]
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Ninos wrote:
thedupleman wrote:
shush........im collecting perfect specimens of coupe to put in there with me(and certain owners)too.i dont want them all knowing.goes without saying you get an invite uncle bob...........


No he means he'll need at least 1 Scotcman down there :roll:

Back on topic then, Yeah I think it’s an absolute farce but by the time that happens, there will be alternative fuels to power our cars and I'm not talking about 20 tonne batteries.


whats a scotcman? is that a bit like a scrotum?

Author:  Gen3FX [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:03 pm ]
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Ninos wrote:
Back on topic then, Yeah I think it’s an absolute farce but by the time that happens, there will be alternative fuels to power our cars and I'm not talking about 20 tonne batteries.


Hydrogen Cells possibly.
Does make you laugh though.
It's the same with Fags. Saw something the other week that two lorry loads of smuggled cigs were caught. they say it was worth £30M in lost revenue.
Now if that is just two lorry loads, what will be the treasury deficit when every smoker gives up?

Author:  androo007 [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:50 pm ]
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i read a while back that if every person in teh UK stopped smoking tomorrow it would be about 24 or 48 hours or something until the country was bankrupt.

And its a fact that for every £1 they spend on treating smoking related illness, they get the equivilent of £6 in tax from fags.

Author:  paulgen3red [ Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:13 pm ]
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its also a fact that only 7% of accidents are caused by speeding, yet they love the revenue it creates.

also the goverments own research has shown, that if everyone in the UK was to use public transport and car were no longer used. It would create more pollution per person/per mile than if everyone used cars.

Author:  gtd2000 [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:47 am ]
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Guys, it won't matter if you could run your cars on fresh air - the Government will still want something approaching a fiver a gallon at today's prices.

I honestly believe this is why they are moving to road pricing.

At the end of the day Government like to waste money faster than it comes in - did you know that if the Government told everybody to not pay their road fund license any more they'd actually save money :shock:

That's right, it actually costs more to have a road tax system administered - they don't actually make a profit out of it at all to spend on the road networks supposedly - madness I know but this is only the tip of the iceberg.

What you should really be doing is getting involved and making your voices heard - they reckon they need to tax the motorist (the easiest target) so high just to help pay for the social welfare network.

So next time you bump into your buddies or aquaintances who are milking the system, be sure to thank them for your high levels of fuel taxation ;)

Author:  gtd2000 [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:52 am ]
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paulgen3red wrote:
its also a fact that only 7% of accidents are caused by speeding, yet they love the revenue it creates.

also the goverments own research has shown, that if everyone in the UK was to use public transport and car were no longer used. It would create more pollution per person/per mile than if everyone used cars.


As we all know speed cameras now known as "safety" cameras have nothing at all to do with safety - otherwise they would not be positioned on the fastest part of straight sections of roads...it's simply revenue generation

From what I've read, personal vehicles/transportation really are not significant factors for global pollution in the first place, industry and military activities are the major offenders.

Author:  -Sie- [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 9:56 am ]
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I often shake my head at the state this country is going in.

Anyway I have often joked about having a roof mounted machine gun on the coupe (previously for stupid drivers) but count me in for the Rioting!

Author:  mick doyle [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 2:36 pm ]
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As in don't live in the UK, I don't have basis for an opinion on the British Govt. However Ireland is in much the same state so I can understand everyones opinions. Petrol/diesel prices are forever rising and the cost of road tax is ridiculously high. Very little if any of the money the motorists are paying out in road tax every year goes towards road maintenance and upkeep.

the price of home heating oil continues to dro tho :confused :confused

If only cars ran on kerosene. Its only 50cent a litre

Author:  gtd2000 [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 3:19 pm ]
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mick doyle wrote:
As in don't live in the UK, I don't have basis for an opinion on the British Govt. However Ireland is in much the same state so I can understand everyones opinions. Petrol/diesel prices are forever rising and the cost of road tax is ridiculously high. Very little if any of the money the motorists are paying out in road tax every year goes towards road maintenance and upkeep.

the price of home heating oil continues to dro tho :confused :confused

If only cars ran on kerosene. Its only 50cent a litre


Ireland is a good comparison really - like most of the Eurozone where nearly everything is more expensive than the UK. Some of the costs in Ireland are nuts really! I'm not surprised folks travel up to the North to go shopping etc.

As a Scot I'm totally opposed to becoming a separate State, mainly for financial reasons, although also for commonsense reasons too - whats the point of leaving a smaller union just to become part of an even bigger (more barkingly expensive) union anyway? Also have you heard half of those muppets up at Holyrood? Some of them would make George Bush look/sound intelligent :o


Just like Ireland, we would still be part of the British Isles at the end of the day too ;) I certainly don't want to pay a premium just to wave a flag.

Cars can and do run on Kerosene you know - just buy a diesel - however 50c a Litre sounds a bit pricey for heating oil no? I think it's about 30~35p/L in the UK? You could always get an LPG conversion?

Author:  Angelus [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:19 pm ]
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I love how nobody has noticed that organising a riot is a criminal offence :P

Author:  thedupleman [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:25 pm ]
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sneaked in by blair after the last lot of fuel protests

Author:  mick doyle [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 4:40 pm ]
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gtd2000 wrote:
however 50c a Litre sounds a bit pricey for heating oil no? I think it's about 30~35p/L in the UK?


Thats about as cheap as it gets. It was almost €1.00 a litre 18months ago.

Author:  thedupleman [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:24 pm ]
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slightly off topic but the same has anyone else noticed the cost of fuel on the continent has shot up too.yes i know its still cheaper but its gone way up

Author:  Joff [ Sat Nov 21, 2009 5:56 pm ]
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http://forums.hyundaicoupe.info/viewtop ... 818#232818

Says it all really

Author:  gtd2000 [ Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:36 am ]
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thedupleman wrote:
slightly off topic but the same has anyone else noticed the cost of fuel on the continent has shot up too.yes i know its still cheaper but its gone way up


It (petrol) was dearer pretty much all of the time I spent over there during the past two year - apart from Diesel - but here's the rub.

You normally pay much more for the road tax etc to get the "discounted" pump price on diesel or LPG ;)

Britain is a bloody bargain right now whatever way you look at it!!! If you don't realise that you've not been out of the country enough!

I've just finished working in Holland with a salary tax of 52%, yes that's right, that's not a typo... :aargh

I was looking at a Hyundai garage in the local town where I lived a couple of months back - they had a 1999 Dawoo Lanos for sale with 160,000km (100k miles) for (in NL) a "bargainous" EU 3000 - what would that cost you in the UK? 300 quid? Another German bloke I worked with sold his 1999 Opel Astra last year for 5000 euros.... say what??? And he needed to sell it quickly because he was going to work in Portugal.

Right now I'm over in the USA - a place I've lived an worked for a good number of years - when I first came to the States it was extremely cheap indeed. I often shake my head in disbelief at how expensive many things have become over here - it used to be a fairly hard and fast rule that whatever you paid a quid for you'd pay a dollar over here. It's not really like that at all now - many day to day items are actually MUCH cheaper in the UK.

Let me just finish by saying that for years I've moaned about the UK - I've spent more than half of my life abroad. I've always loved the country and most of the people (although we do seem to have some sort of monopoly on mindless idiots) but the system always ****** me off.

I'm not sure what really happened but for several years now the UK has become more competitive and customer orientated. Of course YMMV but for me with my extensive travel experience the UK is where I'd want to live in the EU at this point in time

edited - try not to swear please m8, faz ;)

Author:  gtd2000 [ Sun Nov 22, 2009 3:37 am ]
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Angelus wrote:
I love how nobody has noticed that organising a riot is a criminal offence :P


It's only a criminal offence if you get caught of course ;)

Author:  Joff [ Tue Nov 24, 2009 12:56 pm ]
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Cos noone ever notices an organised riot... :P

Author:  Angelus [ Tue Nov 24, 2009 1:21 pm ]
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hehe *hides his IP*

Author:  androo007 [ Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:43 pm ]
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i can see your IP :lol

i think that £2 a litre isnt THAT far away - i mean take it now £110.9 - after VAT goes up after xmas, plus another increase no doubt, i reccon it'll be £113.9 - the way its going up and up i think its very possible :(

Author:  Angelus [ Fri Nov 27, 2009 6:56 pm ]
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androo007 wrote:
i can see your IP :lol


How about now? :P

Author:  thedupleman [ Fri Nov 27, 2009 7:01 pm ]
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now i can see it

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