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 Post subject: For all you out there with fancy Number plates
PostPosted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 6:40 am 
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The government in their infinite wisdom have put the fixed penalty notice fine up for not wearing seat belts and displaying an illegal number plate

read about it here


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can understand the seat belt part


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Thomas_lad wrote:
can understand the seat belt part


The number plate bit is because the APNR cameras can be confused by the shadowed plates or non-standard lettering.


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more bull and robbing ;)


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thedupleman wrote:
more bull and robbing ;)


Agree with that for the number plate.

But keen on people wearing seat belt/harness!

I'll be wearing mine, and having no illegal plate....can't afford not to lol!


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direct.gov.uk wrote:
The increase in fixed penalty also covers illegal number plates. This includes failure to conform with rules on font, size and colour of number plates


So the wrong spacing is ok?

phew :D lol



completely agree about belts though, i think points should be issued!


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Sorry, but the spacing is still relevant.
Here is a description of the requirements for a number plate taken from the dvla.gov site :-
From 1.1.1973 :-
Reflex material, white at front, yellow at rear.
Characters must be black.
In addition, from 1.9.2001 :-
Character height 79mm
Character width (except 1 or letter l) 50mm
Character stroke 14mm
Space between characters 11mm
Space between groups 33mm
Top, bottom and side margins (minimum) 11mm
Space between vertical lines 19mm
So personalised plates with no gaps between numbers and letters etc. will attract the new fine.
My son got a ticket parked outside his house during the night. The plod must have been bored out of his skull to wander the streets looking for dodgy number plates.
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they been handing these fines out for the plates for a while now


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Uncle Buck wrote:
Sorry, but the spacing is still relevant.
Here is a description of the requirements for a number plate taken from the dvla.gov site :-
From 1.1.1973 :-
Reflex material, white at front, yellow at rear.
Characters must be black.
In addition, from 1.9.2001 :-
Character height 79mm
Character width (except 1 or letter l) 50mm
Character stroke 14mm
Space between characters 11mm
Space between groups 33mm
Top, bottom and side margins (minimum) 11mm
Space between vertical lines 19mm
So personalised plates with no gaps between numbers and letters etc. will attract the new fine.
My son got a ticket parked outside his house during the night. The plod must have been bored out of his skull to wander the streets looking for dodgy number plates.
Uncle Buck


I was reading something the other week that there is actually no legal way that they can enforce it for plates like mine, i have just accepted it when ive been pulled but allegedly there are no actual laws that state where the space has to be, something about because of the different types of registrations etc i believe.

mine is all the right spacing and height etc, just that my space is after the 2nd of the 3 end letters rather than before the 3 letters.

who knows though.


Each time i have been pulled it is just a £30 fine so far, next time i lose the plates though allegedly :(


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there is official spacing between the first and second groups check the dvla website also they can only take your number off of you if it was bought from the dvla if it was a private sale your laughing.


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A lot depends on your understanding of "Groups".
The regs I quoted above state the gaps between groups, but what is a group? I always thought a group was, numbers are one group and then the letters are the second group, but we've got the new reg no's since 2001 such as my 57 reg where they include the first two letters and the following two numbers(57) as one group, there's no gap between the numbers and letters on mine or any other plate I've seen. Makes for confusing interpretations, but I found no reference in the regs as to what constituted a group.
mc183rufc has dodgy plates because he states his space is between the second and third letter of the three letter group at the end of his registration. This is clearly a gap within a group, not at the start or end of a group. bu**ers up personalised plates so you just have to hope that the plod in your area is busy with something other than number plates.
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