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 Post subject: window washer failure
PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 8:15 pm 
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my window washers appear to have packed up (coupe s3).
when i try them nothing happens at all, no motor noise to suggest that it is even trying to do anything. fluid is not frozen up.

it was working fine on saturday and then started to trickle and then stopped (as if it had ran out of fluid, but hadn't).

any suggestions before i take it in for warranty?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:01 pm 
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have you perchance been trying to use when its frozen........cos if you have they have plastic spindles and cogs and they have a habit of breaking..........if the dealer asks no you havent been using it it just....stopped


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:10 pm 
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have you perchance been trying to use when its frozen........cos if you have they have plastic spindles and cogs and they have a habit of breaking..........if the dealer asks no you havent been using it it just....stopped


if it was that, would i still not here the motor spin though? there is no noise at all, which suggests the motor isn't even turning.

it was working all OK on saturday, full jets etc, then it just seemed to die (this was while driving).


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not if its burnt out no.have you checked the fuse?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 11, 2010 9:22 pm 
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no not yet, just strange that it would stop working whilst out on the road.
the way it stopped was as if the washer fluid had run out, but it hadn't.


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if its blocked they normally go pathetic.so no noise is blown fuse or blown pump motor


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Try cleaning the motor, takes 10-15 mins tops.

Take the driver side headlight out of the car (3 bolts on a Gen3 and just comes out)
You should see the washer bottle, there will be something attached to the side at the bottom, pull this off.
Detach the hoses and electrical connector and take a look at the part which was in the washer bottle, if you can't see metal gauze then clean it out.

To refit is a reverse of fitting. Attach the hoses and electrical connector, re-insert into the washer bottle, refit the headlight and top up the fluid.

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Try cleaning the motor, takes 10-15 mins tops.

Take the driver side headlight out of the car (3 bolts on a Gen3 and just comes out)
You should see the washer bottle, there will be something attached to the side at the bottom, pull this off.
Detach the hoses and electrical connector and take a look at the part which was in the washer bottle, if you can't see metal gauze then clean it out.

To refit is a reverse of fitting. Attach the hoses and electrical connector, re-insert into the washer bottle, refit the headlight and top up the fluid.

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there's no noise hutchy.........so the motors not even working


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it's free to check and only takes 10 minutes


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I'm not gonna start stripping things out. That's what warranty is for.


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I would defo check the fuse first the wife's astra washers stopped and her tailgate would not open I assumed both not working due to being frozen I then noticed no washer motor noise like you, went on the astra forum and to my amazement the washer fuse is also the tailgate release happy days :rollin


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Which one is the washer fuse? I looked in both fuse boxes and couldn't see any marked for it.


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It's probably the fuse, I had the same problem recently See this thread. http://forums.hyundaicoupe.info/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=21694

The wiper is needing more of a push in this weather therefore fuses are blowing a lot, there's a useful link in the thread also which shows which fuse is which (there should also be a diagram on the inside of the fusebox). Hope this helps.


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It's probably the fuse, I had the same problem recently See this thread. http://forums.hyundaicoupe.info/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=21694

The wiper is needing more of a push in this weather therefore fuses are blowing a lot, there's a useful link in the thread also which shows which fuse is which (there should also be a diagram on the inside of the fusebox). Hope this helps.


this is not the same problem as my wipers are working, it just the washer motor that isn't (both front and rear).

the diagram in that link refers to a 1999 model which is most likely completley different from my 2008 s3 coupe.


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The Gen 3 (& SIII) has 1 motor that does front and back. The Gen1 had 2 motors


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i'm still trying to find out where the fuse is.
it doesn't seem to be mentioned on either of the fuse box labels.


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still can't locate where the fuse for the washer motor is.

i've looked at the fuse map for both the internal and external fuse box and nowhere does it list anything about the washers.

there are seperate fused for front and rear wiper, but nothing for the washer.


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pm sharky


rather impolite to PM someone who isn't actively participating in the thread.


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what!!!
he runs a garage and answers questions on the basis he may get some work from you at some point in the future.he also just enjoys helping members.
http://www.tiburonauto.com/


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he can contribute to the thread then? so everyone gets the advice/info ?

however i think i can safely say that it would be unlikely i would be sending any business to a garage in birmingham when i live in scotland, also as my car still has another 4 years of warranty on it i would not be doing any repairs or parts replacements on it myself.


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he can contribute to the thread then? so everyone gets the advice/info ?

however i think i can safely say that it would be unlikely i would be sending any business to a garage in birmingham when i live in scotland, also as my car still has another 4 years of warranty on it i would not be doing any repairs or parts replacements on it myself.

Consider this a contribution to the thread - It's fuse number 10 (20A) in the BCM and it does front washers and wipers, so it's not that. THE most common cause of washer failure is a blockage. But as you are saying that your pump makes no noise it could be the pump. However as you've alluded to the fact your vehicle is still in warranty, just get down to the dealership and have them sort it out for you.

SIDEBAR: I don't always the have time (nor the inclination sometimes) to trawl through every single thread in every single area. My main purpose on this site is to offer help and advice to members on their vehicles. I would never consider it impolite for someone to ask me a question, however ridiculous they may think it is. As for sharing information - that's why I have my own section. If a member feels that their question is potentially embarrasing there is always the option of the private message.


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chenks wrote:
he can contribute to the thread then? so everyone gets the advice/info ?

however i think i can safely say that it would be unlikely i would be sending any business to a garage in birmingham when i live in scotland, also as my car still has another 4 years of warranty on it i would not be doing any repairs or parts replacements on it myself.

Consider this a contribution to the thread - It's fuse number 10 (20A) in the BCM and it does front washers and wipers, so it's not that. THE most common cause of washer failure is a blockage. But as you are saying that your pump makes no noise it could be the pump. However as you've alluded to the fact your vehicle is still in warranty, just get down to the dealership and have them sort it out for you.

SIDEBAR: I don't always the have time (nor the inclination sometimes) to trawl through every single thread in every single area. My main purpose on this site is to offer help and advice to members on their vehicles. I would never consider it impolite for someone to ask me a question, however ridiculous they may think it is. As for sharing information - that's why I have my own section. If a member feels that their question is potentially embarrasing there is always the option of the private message.


i have a strange itching low down.pm sent :rollin :rollin :rollin

there you go chenks.if you dont ask,you dont get.sharkys a good guy!


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without meaning to hijack the thread, i also have this problem on my gen 1. no noise from the washer jets.

However rear one does work. Hutchy mentioned theres 2 motors for the gen 1 washer jets. so im thinking i just need to replace the motor in the front one and "fingers crossed" problem solved.

Are these easy to fit? i.e do i just remove headlight and take motor off of bottle as outlined earlier in thread, then switch the motors and hey presto? but how do i know which one is front and which rear once i remove the headlight?


i could well be paying sharky a visit soon lol. but ill wait until i have more work on the car such as the exhaust to save botherting him sor something minor like this :D


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well the motor was replaced under warranty.
jets now working again.


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without meaning to hijack the thread, i also have this problem on my gen 1. no noise from the washer jets.

However rear one does work. Hutchy mentioned theres 2 motors for the gen 1 washer jets. so im thinking i just need to replace the motor in the front one and "fingers crossed" problem solved.

Are these easy to fit? i.e do i just remove headlight and take motor off of bottle as outlined earlier in thread, then switch the motors and hey presto? but how do i know which one is front and which rear once i remove the headlight?


i could well be paying sharky a visit soon lol. but ill wait until i have more work on the car such as the exhaust to save botherting him sor something minor like this :D


Yeah they are dead easy to fit you can get to them from under the headlight tho i found it easier with the wheel off an went through the wheel arch. If i remeber rightly the pipes are different think the fron one is clear and the rear is black could be the other way round easy enought to check tho just disconnect one and check to see if the back one still squirts.


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