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 Post subject: PROBLEM WITH OVER SENSITIVE STEERING!
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 2:49 am 
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Hi All Coupeists!
I have just bought my 3rd Coupe! I just adore them! BUT ..I have a problem with this one.....
Its the V6 2002 Model... with only 49k on the hickory!
The problem... THE STEERING!
It's very sensitive to the road surface... It wants to pull excessively either left or right according to the camber of the road or any potholes it hits! It feels like I'm driving on ice most times! Feel like I'm going to lose the back end on acceleration if turning slightly right or left.. It also feels very centered to the ..erm Centre! but any slight movement of the wheel to the Left or right makes it want to pull..It's like when you had a bike and the handlebars were slightly askew!
I have taken it to Kwikfit and had it checked out (with NO faults found SURPRISINGLY!) ..then to my local Hyundai Dealer who recommended a new STEERING RACK and Track Rod Ends .. which were both fitted today under warrenty (thank the lord!) ...
BUT IT'S STILL DOING IT! :bang
The last 2 coupe's have never driven THIS badly!
Can anyone reading this PLEASE let me know if similar has happened to you or any idea's..I'd be ever so grateful! (weedavy6969@googlemail.com)
Is it perhaps something to do with the Traction Control? (Never had TCS before) I also have the problem of the TCS and ABS lights coming on every so often!!!!!! The garage scanned the car on the computer and it DIDN'T recognize it ... so recommend a new BODY CONTROL MODULE or ECU...!
Do I need to switch the TCS to OFF on days that aren't icy ???....(don't have handbook)
PLEASE DROP ME A MAIL WITH UR THOUGHTS.... :bang

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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 10:11 am 
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I get alot of wobble when going over rough surfaces/potholes, although it doesnt sound as bad as yours. Apparently it's to be expected due to the car's big wheels.


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PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 12:55 pm 
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If it really is that severe, the suspension geometry is way out. Has the car been crashed? Only a full geometry check will tell you, but if the wheels are all pointing in different directions, the car will drive like a bag of poo.

Unless Hyundai made big changes to the suspension setup between Gen3 and SIII, they should drive the same. The SIII isn't bothered by rough surfaces, it goes straight. I feel a slight pull on the wheel, but you can hold it in line with one hand easily.

TCS is something that normally remains invisible to you and should never be active in normal driving and dry conditions. It uses the same sensors as the ABS, so it may be a sensor fault that is putting the lights on, other possibles are ABS control unit, body control unit, or ECU. It may also be due to the suspension being a long way out.

I really think the car has a serious problem with the suspension geometry. How long have you had it?


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 Post subject: Hmmm...
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2009 3:27 pm 
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Some of this sounds similar....I have a 2003 V6 (which pull slightly to the right but I haven't had this corrected yet), but, what's similar is when I'm going over unevern ground - even slightly uneven - raised bit in tarmac etc, it feels that the car wants to veer off - usually towards the left gutter if the raised/uneven tarmac is on the left side and to the right if the uneven stuff is on the right....
Not a problem though holding it steady, but you can feel it.

I had a new BCU/ECU installed in November (due to a garage screwing up my old one after replacing a door) and I had this problem (not really a problem but more of a feeling) before and after the new BCU....

I just put it down to the handling of the car.....big tyres, hard suspension etc...


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 20, 2009 10:08 pm 
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There was an old Hyundai Tsb which related to pulling to the right. TSB2444 was the number but I cannot find the details of it.

As to the original problem-- What tyres do you have on there?.


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 Post subject: Sounds very familiar
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 12:53 am 
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Howdy folks !

Newbie here and not yet had proper chance to do the introduction speach, so apologies !!

I have just purchased a 2004 V6 Coup with 49k. Previously had a 20002 2.0 SE which was great to drive and easy to control.

I too was amazed in the difference between the two models. I find my V6 pulls a lot to the left in a similar fashion to what the author says. Any sort of uneven parts of the road particularly if i run along the lines in the middle of the road with my right wheel, it really pulls hard to the left.

I too am concerned about this to the point i have considered just trading it in for something smoother like an IS200 Lexus. I loved my 2.0 SE and the drive was great, but really dissapointed with the drive of the V6.

It's not a family car i know but on the odd occasion i have to pick my 1 year old son up it really worries me that the car is not safe. I did a check on it before i bought it and it was not flagged as having an accident.

Perhaps it is because of the larger wheels / Tyres, i don't know as not really owned anything with the wheels this big so i too would love to know peoples opinions that know about these things. The other possible suggestions all sound rather expensive repairs and i have managed to get stung with the 50k service as did not do my homework before buying.

Gutted :aargh

Any ideas folks :idea:


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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:39 am 
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Guys... many thanks for the ideas and comments...Great thing this Internet lark!
I took the car back to the Garage yesterday and had the Mechanic who fitted the new Steering rack and Track rod ends come for a test drive ... he was stumped as to what is causing the POOR steering!
THIS CAR, THE WAY IT IS IS A DEATH TRAP! VEERING HEAVILY TO EITHER SIDE!
:aargh
I took it for a run on the Motorway the night I got it "repaired" and nearly lost the back end on a slight bend at 60! :shock:
Had to HIRE a car to go to work today up in Aberdeen it was that bad! (A Vauxhall Vectra 2.0 TDI --Drove a dream, steering rock solid and great Miles per gallon too! Up AND down from Glasgow on 1 tank and still showing 100 miles spare! Not like the guzzling V6! Blink and the gauge is down! Do you find it thirsty too?
I'm beginning to think it's a POWER STEERING PROBLEM.....?
The Car is booked in for Monday Morning for a full Steering check and 4 way alignment check...
I'll post the outcome to let you know the latest...
As for the size of the tyres... there BIG! But new to the car and no handbook so not sure the actual size.... will look tomorrow and post...
WeeDavy x
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2009 2:53 am 
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Drifter...
just read ur reply ......
Bought the car about 4 weeks ago .. after seeing it online from a dealer in London...
also bought an AA 5 star warranty luckily!
Will post again on result of FULL suspension check and alignment check on Monday....
WeeDavy69


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Don't keep us in suspense, what's the diagnosis/prognosis.
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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 12:13 am 
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i too noticed a difference wen i fitted the v6 wheels to my I4. but i have had all of my steering changed by hyundai. Mine isnt as bad as it used to be and no where near as bad as your describin, but it almost went away wen i changed my suspension to the current set up. i would suggest checking your tyres aren't at too high a pressure and you have the correct rated tyres on. Sorry for statin the obvious. And as for your problem with the abs light cumin on i get that too but only wen its been snowin or i have drivin thru water, i put that down to crap on one of the sensors or moisture gettin into the plug on the ABS unit. Hope that helps sort it


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PostPosted: Fri Feb 27, 2009 1:31 am 
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Sorted!
Was told the problem was the 4 way trackin was MILES out!
The car is handling PERFECT now..... :D
Still having problem with intermittent TCS and ABS lights coming on but only every so often.... Will live with that till I have some free time in a few weeks...
The car is a real Fuel Guzzler though... Don't know how long I can put up with that though...
I might go back to a SE model if I can find one .....
thanks guys for all the steering help.... Appreciated!
WeeDavy ...


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PostPosted: Tue Mar 03, 2009 4:56 pm 
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When you say it handles perfectly now, does it still pull slightly over potholes and rough ground? As I hear that's to be expected


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205 tyres are big and follows rough road and things, its to be expected alright


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PostPosted: Thu Mar 05, 2009 2:03 am 
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Yes... The Car is Handling very solidly now after having the 4 way tracking sorted! No pulling at all... BUT...(and here goes..)
Driving it today, the ENGINE CHECK warning light came on (and stayed on!) I also have intermittent TCS / ABS / Handbrake warning lights coming on! It's like a fruit machine my dashboard!
Been checked out by Hyundai Dealer and been told it's probably the BODY CONTROL MODULE and or the ECU unit that both need replaced as the car wasn't "talking" to their Hi-SCAN computer diagnostic machine!
The Body Control module is specific to each car's settings so can't even buy a second hand one.... :bang The price of a new one was quoted @ £569.90! :(
The ECU was coming in @ £395.42 plus labour of £110 + vat!
Also, been told the handbrake warning light is the "back disks" (I think that's what he mentioned..was in shock at the time!)
Oh ....and also need a window regulator motor for the driver side door!!! :bang
Added to that the guzzling Fuel....I'M SELLING THE bug*er!
Only had it 6 weeks and had NOTHING but stress! IT'S NOTHING LIKE MY OLD Coupe SE's...


Disgruntled from Scotland!
Weedavy ... :roll:


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 Post subject: READ THIS!
PostPosted: Sat Mar 14, 2009 7:58 pm 
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I was working up in Inverness then on to Aberdeen then back to Glasgow.
THE CAR WAS DRIVING A DREAM!
What with the new steering rack and the tracking problem sorted, it was handling so so good! The car was the envy of my passengers!
A 500 odd mile round trip!
I had got back to Glasgow around 2am and was looking for a parking space when ......................
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i heard an unusual noise! Then the steering went HEAVY!
"WTF " I thought!
Took it (very gently) back to the garage this morning only to discover the (new) steering rack had blown the seals at both sides and was pishing out oil!
Hey Ho .. It's OFF THE ROAD AGAIN AWAITING YET ANOTHER NEW RACK!!!
How unlucky is this!
Curse of Friday the 13th I think!
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